The Rest of the Big 12 After Texas & Oklahoma’s Departure

By now, you’ve likely seen the news about Texas and Oklahoma potentially leaving the Big 12 and joining the SEC. While this is far from over, the writing is on the wall for the rest of the Big 12. So what happens to them once the big two leave the Big 12? I see two plausible scenarios:

The Big 12 Goes Full Big East Circa 2012

What I mean by this is that the Big 12 essentially raids the AAC plus a few other teams and hopes to go forward as a shell of a power conference. They would certainly not be as strong as they were with Texas and Oklahoma but this might be the best option for many of the conference members. However, this would mean that each school would essentially be sitting with a prisoner’s dilemma on conference realignment. In any case, the schools that are rumored on the interwebs to potentially receive an invite to the Big 12 in this scenario are:

  • Houston –
    • Perfect geographic fit
    • Good football
    • Final Four in basketball last year
    • Could hurt current Big 12 members’ recruiting in Texas
  • Cincinnati –
    • Good travel partner for WVU
    • Top 10 football contender this year
    • Good basketball
  • UCF –
    • Geographic outlier
    • Good football
    • Solid basketball
    • Largest student population in the country
  • Memphis –
    • Good geographic fit
    • Solid basketball
    • Solid football
  • BYU –
    • Great athletic fit
    • Not terribly outside of geographic footprint
    • Religious affiliation has been an athletic conference challenge in the past but the Big 12 might be willing to overlook that at this point.
  • Boise State –
    • Good travel partner with BYU
    • Great football
    • Basketball not as strong

These six plus the little eight would give the conference 14 members if all elected to join/stay:

  1. Baylor
  2. TCU
  3. TTU
  4. Ok St
  5. Kansas
  6. K State
  7. Iowa State
  8. WVU
  9. Houston
  10. Cincinnati
  11. UCF
  12. Memphis
  13. BYU
  14. Boise State

This conference would be fun as hell. I’m sure someone would emerge as the top dog in football eventually, but at this point it would be the ACC without Clemson. Anyone could take down the conference any given year. And this would be a really strong basketball conference as well! The Big 12 was arguably the strongest basketball conference in the country last year. Add to that a Final Four team in Houston, Penny Hardaway doing Penny things at Memphis, BYU the only team to really challenge Gonzaga in the WCC, and the rest of the teams are not too shabby either. I honestly prefer this option for these teams but let’s look at scenario number two below.

The Big 12 Dissolves Completely

As is surely happening right now, each of the rest of the Big 12 teams are frantically calling commissioners, key athletic directors, and power brokers of all of the other power conferences to try to jump ship if the Big 12 does go the way of the dodo. It seems like worst case scenario for all of these teams would be joining the AAC or some sort of Big 12/AAC hybrid. So, let’s talk about the each of their other options to try to avoid that.


Best Case Scenario: B1G

Kansas brings a lot to the table. They are a blue blood in basketball, are an AAU (American Association of Universities) institution academically, are a good geographic fit for the B1G, a good cultural fit as well, and their football facilities are on the rise. The B1G has shown that is is ok with taking comparatively weak football programs if they offer something else that the B1G covets (cough *Rutgers*, cough *Maryland*). If the B1G takes only one former Big 12 program it will be Kansas.

Other Scenario: Pac 12

On the other hand, there is a good chance that the B1G decides not to take any schools in this round of realignment. In which case, Kansas would probably go the Pac. Aside from not being a good geographic or cultural fit, they meet everything else that the conference would seek.

Iowa State

Best Case Scenario: B1G

The Cyclones have an uphill battle in convincing the B1G to let them in. They offer no new geographic territory for the B1G as in-state rival University of Iowa is there. Additionally, the Hawkeyes would likely be staunchly opposed to ISU joining the conference. Iowa State has to hope that being an AAU intuition, their strong football program this year, and decently sized fan base in B1G country will help get them in. They also have to make the business case to the B1G that their fan base will be more valuable in the age of cord cutting and streaming than adding an additional media market.

Kansas State

Best Case Scenario: Pac 12

Oklahoma State

Best Case Scenario: Pac 12


Best Case Scenario: Pac 12

All three of these schools have to hope that the Pac 12 is interested in creating an Eastern pod that extends out to their territory. They have to be banking on the Pac not wanting the SEC to ascend so far beyond the other conferences and yield too much influence and sway. This might be a stronger if Kansas ends up joining the Pac as well. In which case, the pods could look like:

  • Pac 12 East: Kansas, K State, TTU, Oklahoma St
  • Pac 12 Mountain: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
  • Pac 12 California: USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal
  • Pac 12 North: Washington, Wazzu, Oregon, Oregon State


Best Case Scenario: ACC

WVU would be a great cultural fit in the ACC. They come with built in rivals: Pitt, Virginia Tech, and to a lesser extent Syracuse. They are not a strong academic school, so that could keep them out. Football and basketball are both decently strong and I can only see them getting stronger if they can recruit ACC country rather than telling recruits to come to Morgantown, West Virginia where you’ll play schools in Texas and the Great Plains.


Best Case Scenario: AAC


Best Case Scenario: AAC

I can’t see the PAC, B1G, or ACC taking either of these schools for a myriad of geographic, athletic, and cultural reasons plus the fact that they are both private schools. So, unfortunately, they are guaranteed to be left out in the cold in a Big 12 dissolution scenario. Its a real shame with Baylor being the reigning men’s basketball national champions, but as a UConn fan allow me to welcome you to the club. When you play the game of conferences you win or you die, there is no middle ground.

Coincidence that I’ve never seen Cersei and Texas in the same room together at the same time?

NBA PLAYER RANKINGS: Best & Worst of the NBA Season So Far

Congratulations NBA fans, we have made it through the first quarter of the 2020-21 NBA season WITHOUT IT GETTING SHUT DOWN!

Well, I guess we shouldn’t jump ahead of ourselves. Players are in and out of the line-ups daily. Games are getting postponed left and right. Fantasy basketball teams have gone up in flames (in case you’re wondering why you haven’t seen much of Gabe Lloyd’s FAVES and FADES picks for basketball). Nonetheless, we have seen some players rise above and SHINE, and others fall apart. Without further ado, here are my best and worst of the NBA Player Rankings in the 2020-21 NBA season so far!

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BEST – Collin Sexton

There is a new phenomenon taking over the state the Ohio. They are missing their King no more.

Cleveland has now been renamed SEXLAND (and it is not because Pornhub moved their HQ out there).

It is largely in part because of one man – Collin Sexton. Now look, I’ll be honest, I’ve watched a grand total of one Cavaliers game this season, but that was enough for me. This man single-handedly decapitated the three-headed monster from Brooklyn AND the referees in an incredible performance last week.

Sexton has done something LeBron James never got to accomplish in Cleveland – score 20 points in each of his first 10 games this season. This guy is bound to be an All-Star, bound to be on some All-NBA teams, and if the Cleveland Cavaliers can build around him, dare I say leading this team during the PLAYOFFS?! Yeah, I said it. And if I am a Cavs fan, I am relishing in some delayed gratification because it appears that they have won the Kyrie trade too.

WORST – Russell Westbrook

We’ve all heard about the new Commander-in-Chief at the White House, but did you hear about the new Tank Commander leading the Washington Wizards?

Allow me to introduce you to the man meant to sell the idea of the Wizards being a playoff team. A man who alongside Bradley Beal would make a lethal scoring back-court duo and not force Scott Brooks to come up with line-ups or set plays (because that is not what he signed up for, apparently). Russell EASTbrook should be reveling in a renaissance just like Bubble Melo did last season. He had me fooled. Admit it, he fooled you too.

Unfortunately, the Russell EASTbrook campaign has served as nothing more than just another cautionary tale in the NBA. We are sitting courtside and bearing witness to what happens when a player relies on his athleticism, explosiveness, AND NOTHING ELSE. But, what happens when FATHER TIME and injuries come knocking and you have not developed anything else in your game? Russ cannot shoot, handle the ball, drive to the basket, or even beat his man nowadays. The Washington Wizards may as well hit up the league offices, offer to forfeit games, let their new tanking commander do his thing, and FADE FOR CADE!

P.S. – Bradley Beal if you are reading, GET OUT OF WASHINGTON ASAP!

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NBA City Edition Jerseys – Top 5 Rankings

What is a sign that we are ONE STEP CLOSER to the 2020-21 NBA season? New NBA City Edition Jerseys getting dropped by all 30 NBA teams just in time for the holidays!

Let’s be real. I’m no “fashionista”. I have been living in PJ’s since early March and it looks like I will be doing so for a while longer. But, there are no rules in 2020. Who is to say I can’t sleep and work from home in a HEAT ViceVersa jersey?

Here are my Top 5 NBA City Edition Jerseys ranked:


First, we have the Chicago Bulls City Edition jerseys. I am HERE for the vibe with these jerseys! They appear to be right off the set of The Great Gatsby or even Boardwalk Empire. Can you imagine Al Capone strutting around in one of these back in the “Roaring 20s”? I think he would approve.


These jerseys are cool because they feature Oregon’s beautiful landscape. To add, the colors on them honor the tribal nations that have been calling the area home forever. Looking forward to seeing how Dame D.O.L.L.A. styles it on the cover of his next album.


Well, I guess if Michael Jordan is going to splurge on aging vets prone to injury, he might as well do the same for his team’s jerseys, right? Nevertheless, I do like the mint color with the gold black trimmings and the gold hornets on these Buzz City jerseys. They probably won’t make the playoffs, but at least they will look good on the court!


Undoubtedly so, we CANNOT let the conversations around social injustice against the black community die. What better way to keep it alive than with a jersey honoring a Civil Rights leader front and center? (FYI – Martin Luther King Jr. was born in Atlanta, Georgia). For this reason, I must say the Hawks nailed it here!


Did a bit of “homer” bias play into this pick? Sure. However, there is no denying the HEAT just can’t miss with any of their Vice designs. The colors, the presentation, and the typeface blend the team and its ties to the city of Miami so perfectly. Also worth noting, these jerseys would be perfect to wear at a gender reveal parties (though this trend needs to die already). I remember the first Vice Wave drop like it was just yesterday with the 90s vibe, neon lights, and of course – the sounds of Lights, Camera, Action by Mr. Cheeks. Santa, if you are reading this…

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Views from The Baseline – Episode 17: The Last Dance Review Ep. 7 & 8

Chevall Kanhai is joined by stand-in co-host Chris Thompson to review episodes 7 & 8 of the The Last Dance documentary. The two give their thoughts on the darkest times of Michael Jordan’s career and share what they never knew prior to these episodes. Was Michael’s second three-peat more valuable than his first? Tune into find out what they dissect in Jordan’s motives for his second three-peat.

WWE Hell in a Cell 2018 Preview and Predictions

WWE Hell in a Cell 2018 Previews and Predictions

Roman and Braun Hell in a Cell

It has been a mixed bag of sorts heading into this PPV. On the one hand, it’s a Hell in a Cell PPV with only one title match in a cell. And then arguably the match that arguably needs it the second most, Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte isn’t scheduled to be inside the cell. Oh WWE your booking never ceases to amaze us. Here are our previews and predictions for Hell in a Cell 2018.

SmackDown Tag Team Championship — New Day (c) vs. Rusev Day (Kickoff Show)

Rusev’s Day has smoldered off of popularity as, much like so many others, WWE never took advantage while they were over. Rusev will likely survive to lose this series, but Aiden English on his current projection will likely flounder if they break up after this. New Day don’t need this win, and it would be nice to see the underdogs pull one out when it matters. But WWE is going to WWE, and because this is on the pre-show, I can’t see it having any critical impact.

Predicted Winners: Markus: New Day, Adam: New Day

Raw Tag Team Championship — Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre (c) vs. Seth Rollins & Dean Ambrose

I don’t think WWE will give The Shield all of Monday Night’s gold. However, Seth Rollins is carrying the IC belt and doesn’t even need to defend it on a PPV. Doing the hot potato with titles between Seth and Ziggler would be pretty stale booking for the past few months. I’d like to see Ziggler and McIntyre have a nice reign outside of having to go against The Shield. I know Raw’s Tag Team division has been booked into oblivion, so now’s the time to rehab a new team for them to go against.

Predictions: Markus and Adam: Ziggler and McIntyre

Daniel Bryan & Brie Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse

If Bryan and Brie don’t win, I’ll be shocked. You have to keep the feud going until at least the Rumble, so here we go.

Predictions: Markus and Adam: Daniel Bryan & Brie Bella

Jeff Hardy vs. Randy Orton (Hell in a Cell Match)

Jeff is going to Swanton Bomb off the cage. I’m not sure if Randy can RKO him out of it because of physics, but if they can find a way, they’ll do it. And I’m all for seeing it as well.

Predictions: Markus and Adam: Randy Orton

Raw Women’s Championship — Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Alexa Bliss

Squash match. Anything else would probably ruin the mystique of Rousey too soon. Maybe some interference or backstabbing by Natalya may give Bliss the win, but no way it’s a clean win for Bliss tonight.

Predictions: Markus and Adam: Ronda Rousey

SmackDown Women’s Championship — Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch

Ahh, WWE when will you sometimes learn to allow the fans to dictate the web and flows of stories.  You tried to paint Becky as a heel, and now you’re trying to slap the Stone Cold mantle on her? Yikes. There hasn’t been a consistent build for Becky heading into this. I think Becky needs this because her last year has been mostly forgettable. Charlotte should have to chase a title for a while, but with Evolution coming up this is probably a huge tossup.

Predictions: Markus and Adam: Becky Lynch

WWE Championship — AJ Styles (c) vs. Samoa Joe

WENDY! Samoa Joe has been cutting some great promos lately, and I’d like to see him leave tonight with the belt. They’ve been playing AJ’s title run up recently, which may mean he could be dropping it soon. Samoa Joe needs a title run on the main roster, and this more psychotic character would be an excellent precursor to a strong heel run.

Predictions: Markus: Samoa Joe, Adam: AJ Styles

WWE Universal Championship — Roman Reigns (c) vs. Braun Strowman (Hell in a Cell Match)

If WWE spent three years propping up WWE to give Roman a belt just for him to lose it in a month, then I don’t know what this company is anymore. There may be some shenanigans to put Braun over in this match, but I think Reigns needs a christening match. Beating the Monster in a cage after slaying The Beast would be a potent 1-2 punch start to a title reign. If only WWE’s endgame wasn’t so obviously written on the wall.

Predictions: Markus and Adam: Roman Reigns

We’ll catch you guys tonight on Twitter @TheHowPod. We hope WWE can deliver a good post-Summer Slam PPV. They’ve been slacking these last couple years. Peace.

Markus X. Murden, Esq.

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Heels of Wrestling Interviews Nathan Crown

Interview with CWF Co-Owner Nathan Crown

Heels! This week we’re joined by Nathan Crown of the Coastal Wrestling Federation. Nathan Crown has always been a mega fan of wrestling, and now he looks to change the landscape of Florida wrestling along with his partners at CWF. Listen to Nathan as the Wrestling Royalty shares his journey and takes on WWE, NJPW, and more.

Markus X. Murden, Esq.

Senior Editor and Host of The Heels of Wrestling Podcast. Battle Rap aficionado. Follow me @MXMurden and @TheHowPod

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Top 10 Rap Battles I Want to See

Top 10 Rap Battles I Want to See

Set’em Up

Every sport has their fans, and every fan has their dream matches. Some dream battles happen organically, while others need a little nudging to get things going. If we’re lucky, we get the joy of seeing these matches, and they end up living up to expectations. Take all-time great battles between Serena and Venus, Djokovic and Nadal, and Bird and Magic. These matches were all-time classics that can be looked back upon for ages.

In battle rap, we’ve been lucky to get a few dream battles. Hollow and Lux, Lux and Clips, and soon we get the long anticipate Hollow and Arsonal rematch on Smack Volume 2. So what more could I possibly want from battle rap? Well, these are the battles I want to see. No real particular order, just putting them down. I’ve also attempted to stay away from more universally desired matches like Mook and Surf.

10. Tay Roc vs. Pat Stay

I’d like to see Tay Roc go on a run of battles against some of King of the Dot’s best to offer and Pat Stay fits the bill. Pat put KOTD on his back for quite a while, and Roc is more or less the face of URL at this point. If there was a neutral battle league they could realistically be booked at I’d choose for them to go there, but I can’t think of any that could manage this battle. Rare Breed or UDubb could fit the bill, but even there I feel the crowd would lean Tay Roc.

I’d see Tay Roc taking this battle 2-1 but Pat has surprised me in the past, and if he can return to the top form he could topple Roc if he’s not on his A game. Charron did it and Pat undoubtedly can as well.

9. Charron vs. DNA (1 Round Freestyle Battle)

DNA is the best freestyler in battle rap. He may have some competition as the best at rebuttles, but in my opinion, he has the crown for just pure freestyling. On the other hand, Charron isn’t a slouch either. A one-round all freestyle battle could be entertaining.

I would prefer this battle to take place in KOTD just due to the gimmick of it. These two already faced off at that stage, and I think this would be much more welcomed on that platform. URL crowds could end up being harsh on this battle should things go south. However, substantial 5-minute rounds from both sides would make this a fun exhibition match to see. I’d have DNA in a close one.

8. Tay Roc vs. Hitman Holla

Whoooo. This one would be an instant classic. The old face of URL against the current look. If both bring their A game, this can and will be up there with all of their other classic bouts. The aggression in this battle would be crazy. Logic would say it all comes down to the third, with Hitman more or less owning round 1’s and Roc the king of the second round.

This battle can only happen in URL, let’s not even kid ourselves. I got Hitman Holla 2-1 in a bloodbath. If anyone can sap some of the momenta from a Roc second round, it might be Hitman.

7. Hollow Da Don vs. John John Da Don

Da Dinininon vs. Mr. Say it twice. The air needs to be sufficiently clear about what happened in that scuffle between them. I’m all for grudge matches with personal aspects to them whenever possible, and this one has two high caliber opponents behind it. John John has just started back spitting no the Bullpen stage, and Hollow has been back for a minute. This battle would work.

Summer Madness on URL. Just make it happen. If John John can get this booked on Bullpen, I’m sure he’d love that, but if Hollow would agree to that setting, he may just have something hot up his sleeves. I got Hollow winning 2-1 with him being able to angle just a little bit better than John John in the battle.

6. Bender vs. Soul Khan

No list could be complete without a hail mary pick, and here it is. Neither of these two has graced a stage in quite some time, so the odds are low, but if this could happen I’d be the first to sign up to watch.

Bender was on a killing spree when he was hot in KOTD. His multisyllabic style easily overtook those who were attempting the same but couldn’t keep pace. Soul Khan was one of the early greats in my opinion. Maybe Organik can hop in a time machine and put these two against each other on a KOTD stage in 2018. Soul Khan 2-1 in a show of good technical skill on both sides of this battle.

5. Math Hoffa vs. Charlie Clips

Another battle that probably should have happened about five years ago, we have the Brooklyn Bully against Harlem’s Clips. From what I can tell these two are close so the personals if this battle would happen, could be T-Rex battle levels. These two have more or less seen it all in URL; Clips was there in Cali when the Dizaster situation occurred, etc. This clash could be something special.

Another Summer Madness slot for this battle. If both come on their A game, this battle could be next level. In 2017 Clips showed he can still be a killer when it’s time to battle for three rounds. Math didn’t fare as well in the year, but this battle could bounce his stock back up if he performs well. My intuition tells me Clips takes this battle, 2-1 with a strong third round.

4. Nu Jersey Twork vs. Calicoe

MADNESS. Not since Calicoe is someone having such a substantial impact on the URL as a rookie. As a rookie, Calicoe’s influence was so keen to bring URL to Detroit. Twerk has taken the URL by force in 2017 with slogans and quotables for days. Calicoe and Twerk would stand toe-to-toe with each other in stature which would add another significant element to the battle.

Maaaaan this one is hard to call, but it definitely should be on Summer Madness. Twerk needs to redeem himself for his Summer Madness slip up, and having a classic or beating Mr. Summer Madness would solidify his already skyrocketing position in URL.

3. T-Top vs. Nu Jersey Twork

The best of the last class against the best of the new. Had the Ultimate Freestyle Fridays hadn’t gone under we may have got to see this match on BET. T-Top has a very natural laid-back style, while Twork is all energy and aggression. Both of them just came of convincing wins over JC, so this could be an exciting natural collision course.

In opposite of Hitman and Roc, I see this battle coming down to who snatches the crowd first. Coming back from behind isn’t either of these guys strong points, so having the crowd vibe with them is significant. T-Top has already gone against some of the legendary names, and this could be Twork’s opportunity to get into that echelon with him. I say have this battle in the DMV, Twork’s people will be there, and it’s close enough for Top to not be alone. This battle is another one that has instant classic written all over it, so it maybe should be reserved for Summer Madness or a Night of Main Events card. I got Top 2-1 with a closeout third like he’s grown accustomed to giving us on stage.

2. Geechi Gotti vs. B-Dot

West Coast collision course for the ages. It might be too soon for this battle, but it needs to headline a Traffic event by at least 5. A clash between these two can settle the debate of who is the new king of West Coast battle rap. And what a style clash it’ll be.

Geechi just makes me believe everything he says and B-Dot’s conviction in his bars are off the charts. B-Dot can try to take the high road in this battle and talk to Geechi, but can B-Dot check Geechi? Can Geechi somehow rip the holiness from B-Dot in the battle? B-Dot is a master at being personal in his battles, but I’m not sure what angles he can take with Geechi. If this turns into a bar fest, I will give the edge to Geechi. However, from just pure rapping ability, I’d have to give the edge to B-Dot. Either way, an instant classic that would show the West Coast is here to stay and evolve.

1. Gun Titles vs. Marvwon and Quest MCody

Welcome back home, Tsunami Surf! The battle rap world has missed you. I got a hot match for you and Roc to show you guys can hang with anyone as a team.

I don’t want this to be Surf’s come home battle though, that would be unfair to Marv and Quest. However, I think Marv and Quest would somehow be okay with the odds no matter what they are. They were the underdogs back in the day, and they’d still be now. This battle would obviously be a marquee matchup for Double Impact should they decide to book this.

Marv and Quest 2-1. People need to put respect on their name they deserve, and this could be the battle to do it for the new generation of fans. Marv and Quest 30’d Cake Lyfe in the first Double Impact, and I don’t see that chemistry letting up. Gun Titles were walking on water in their first battle but came back to earth in their second. This battle could be THE all-time two on two battle if it all goes well, but I still got the OG’s taking it, probably on cam. Please feel free to come @ me with your opinions on this.


Markus X. Murden, Esq.

Senior Editor/Heels of Wrestling

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Top 10 Battle Rap NBA/Basketball Bars of all Time

Top 10 NBA/Basketball Bars of All Time

Heat Check

Continuing my anthology of some of my favorite sports-related bars of all time, we’re moving into basketball with this list. Basketball and hip hop have been linked forever and have influenced one another in a myriad of ways. Battle rap would be no exception as it’s essentially the street ball of rap. I don’t think there’s a battle rapper who hasn’t made at least one NBA or basketball reference in their career. I had to take a lot of time to consider what to put on this inaugural list. The top 3 could be in any order. Here we go.

Bars were chosen based on creativity, references used, and the uniqueness of the bar. I’ll be citing the battles the bars appear in, please check them out so these artists can get the love they deserve. Thanks to for some lyrical clarity.

Honorable Mentions

“Ibaka, I make my living off taking blocks.” Goodz (vs. Aye Verb)

“He’ll be Isaiah Thomas: Detroit nigga pissed on (Piston) with 11 in his back.” Tay Roc (vs. Ill Will)

“Violate him in 5 seconds like the nigga trying to inbound.” Arsonal (vs. Aye Verb)

“Before the cut; Shumpert, after the cut; Beasley.” Gun Titles (vs. NWX)

10. B Magic – Back to the Cavalier (vs. Conceited)

Classic B Magic delivery made this bar stand out me. Plus I like the double wordplay.

Conceited gon’ catch every shell it contain
Then I’m running back to the Cavalier: LeBron James

9. Calicoe – Rajon Rondo’d (vs. O-Red)

Calicoe was on a killing spree against new jersey at this time, and this bar lead to a lot of Rondo bars against Surf going forward.

I show up to Rajon with a blindfold; get Rajon John Doe’d

Put a nine in Rajon Back and get Rajon Rondo’d

8. Jaz The Rapper – Get the Tech (vs. Official)

I love one-liner bars like this. It set the energy for the battle for Jaz.

I’m gonna talk crazy to Official…just so I can get the tech

7. Tsu Surf – Lakers Scheme (vs. Conceited)

There’s been a lot of starting 5 bars spit, and I think this one is the best. You know they say Surf’s cold but all he talks about is hoopin…

And if I gotta let it go then I’ma clap ’til he drop
POW! I felt like Kobe how word got back to the block after the shots… Pau, Kobe, Howard, back to the block

6. Hitman Holla – JR Smith Remix (vs. Aye Verb)

The very first remix that becomes Holla’s signature move ever since. It wasn’t the most complicated bar, but the performance and delivery upped this to a classic.
I come to one of Verb parties with the AR clip
And shoot soon as I get in like I’m J.R. Smith


5. Hollow Da Don – Timeout in Michigan (vs. Tsu Surf)

Personal and creative. Hollow’s return against Surf is anchored with this haymaker.

Hopin’ it gets better, playin’ Chris Webber
Tryin’ to forget that time out in Michigan

4. Ill Will – At the Rucker Game (vs. Tay Roc)

The second bar from this battle, it was aided by Will’s excellent performance of the bar. Not to mention you can see Hot Sauce in your head doing what Will said.

So if he go for the steal, I’ll put one round his head
And tuck it back in the shirt like Hot Sauce at a Rucker game

3. Big T – Lebron James (vs. Deacon Frost)

Classic, classic bar. If you know old URL, you remember this bar.

Don’t let me hear  you cremating her

I’ll show up to your crib, and Lebron James the remains of her

2. Marvwon and Quest MCody – Gilbert Arenas (vs. Chess and Steams)

This is an all-time top bar. Marv and Quest are flawless on stage together, and this shows it. I get the stink face just thinking of this bar it’s so nasty.

Y’all called the right bluff, nigga pressuring us will make the pipe bust

I tell my niggas Gilbert Arenas if he actin’ type tough

Hold up you better break that down

That’s when you put a Gun on a PG, and fuck his whole life up

1. Murda Mook – Jordan Still won that game (vs. Yung Hot)

Mook’s scheme here could arguably be the most famous lines in battle rap. Years later people still allude to it. It’s hard to deny the levels to this scheme, and it goes to show why Mook is held in such regard for his pen.

I believe in the hype, that’s why every time you hear me, I compare me to Mike

Example: Remember when A.I. crossed Mike out his sneakers?

Seemed so much worse ’cause we ain’t think Mike had a weakness

All for that one move A.I. got his fame

They forgot Jordan had 35 and still won that game.”


Markus X. Murden, Esq.

Senior Editor/Heels of Wrestling

@MXMurden and @TheHowPod


10 Best WWE Superstars of 2017

10 Best WWE Superstars of 2017

2017 was a rough year for WWE Superstars. There were plagues of injuries, subpar storylines, and pushes that halted. However, some Superstars did become brighter in 2017, and others kept their remarkable paces going. The Superstars on the list are a mix of the best in-ring matches, promos, storylines, and overall entertainment value of the wrestler. These are those Superstars.

Honorable Mentions

Rusev and Aiden English

Randy Orton


Sami Zayn

Chris Jericho

10. Brock Lesnar

BROCK LESNAR. The man was so busy defending WWE against the Universe that he shows up when he wants. When he does, there’s usually carnage and a lot of big moves to go with it. Holding the red strap since Wrestlemania, the Beast Incarnate may keep the belt until mania, and there’s not much any mortal man could do about it.

Notable Match: AJ Styles vs. Brock Lesnar (Clash of Champions)

WWE Superstar Brock Lesnar

9. Kevin Owens

The former Universal Champion had a quietly excellent year in WWE. The breakup of him and Jericho was the story of WWE heading into Mania, and Chris left putting Owens over.  Ownes had a period of being saddled without a great opponent who could bring out his best in-ring work. He and Zayn have been fantastic together at the end of the year, and I hope he gets into the WWE title picture very soon in 2018. He’s probably the best heel Smackdown has at the moment in their single’s division.

Notable Match: Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon (Hell in a Cell)

8. The Bar (Sheamus and Cesaro)

Collectively Sheamus and Cesaro have helped to keep Raw’s tag team division at a good caliber. The two European born stars have gelled into something great together. Their seemingly year-long feud with The Shield is hopefully coming to an end, but with the current booking, who knows?

Notable Match: The Bar vs. The Shield (Raw 11/7)

WWE Superstars The Bar

7. Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins (The Shield)

After the brand shakeup in 2017, it was almost impossible to see one of these men without the other one. I thought about separating them on this list, but their best run was once they joined forces. Their matches against the Bar were tremendous and after the inclusion of their third wheel Roman Reigns, these two still shined together, especially in Reigns’ absence. Hope you come back stronger than ever, Dean.

Notable Match: The Shield w/ Kurt Angle vs. Braun Strowman, Miz, Kane, and The Bar (Summer Slam)

WWE Superstars Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins

6. Roman Reigns

The current Intercontinental champion Roman Reigns had a great year. At Wrestlemania, he beat the Undertaker being his highlight of the year. Roman’s being kept in the chamber so he can slay Lesnar at Mania and we all know it. However in-ring he’s had some great moments and his “This is my Yard Now” promo may be the best of his career.

Notable Match: Roman Reigns vs. Undertaker (Wrestlemania)

WWE Superstar Roman Reigns

5. Braun Strowman

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUN. Talk about a breakthrough year for a Superstar. Strowman was let loose from the Wyatt Family and spent most of the year laying waste to Roman Reigns. After having his momentum halted by Brock, hopefully, next year brings some gold his way.

Notable Match: Braun Strowan vs. Roman Reigns (Ambulance Match) (Great Balls of Fire)

4. The New Day

After their historic title reign was ended by The Bar, The New Day seemed aimless on Raw. Then they were moved to Smackdown and had the feud of the year with The Usos. It’s only a question of whether The New Day should be separated or kept going, either way, all these guys are incredible talents, and I look forward to everything they do.

Notable Match: The New Day vs. The Usos (Battleground)

3. AJ Styles

It feels like AJ Styles spent most of 2017 in subpar feuds that ended up with fantastic matches. A run with Baron Corbin made him cool off a bit, but high level matches with Lesnar, Cena, Balor, and more established Styles was high on this list. Plus he somehow made Jinder look okay for 15+ minutes. The Phenomenal one is the current WWE Champion and I hope 2018 brings memorable feuds for him while he’s in this position.

Notable Match: AJ Styles vs. John Cena (Royal Rumble)

WWE Superstar AJ Styles

2. The Miz

The only reason Miz isn’t #1 on this list is that he didn’t have a remarkable match this year. The Miz’s mic work, in-ring psychology, and just overall wrestling business sense aren’t matched by many this year. Taking him off of Smackdown was a massive mistake by WWE, he owned that show and Talking Smack. I can only hope The Miz comes back, gets his IC Title again, and keeps his fantastic run going. Thank you, Miz.

Notable Feud: The Miz vs. WWE

1. The Usos

Welcome to the Uso Penitentiary! 2017 was the year of The Usos. At the beginning of the year, The Miz and The Usos made Smackdown the program to watch. Heel Usos have been the best makeover in WWE in quite some time. The rap battle promos, the matches with New Day, American Alpha, and others have solidified The Usos as my favorite Superstars of the Year. If WWE had any sense, they’d give these guys the main event match at a PPV. Every Smackdown PPV slumped after their matches, and they’d usually be the first ones. I’m all in on some Day One Ish, and I hope WWE gives them their due come Wrestlemania 2018.

Notable Match: The Usos vs. New Day (Hell in a Cell)

WWE Superstars The Usos

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Markus X. Murden, Esq.

Senior Editor/Heels of Wrestling

@MXMurden on Twitter and Instagram

Heels of Wrestling Episode 18: WWE Clash of Champions 2018

Heels of Wrestling Episode 18: WWE Clash of Champions 2018

In this episode, your Hosts Markus and Bobby break down just how uninspired Smackdown’s last PPV of the year Clash of Champions was. We also touch on the historic Women’s Royal Rumble announcement.

WWE Clash of Champions celebration

Daniel Bryan celebrates with Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn